[Swiss1000]

True  
An old tablet, with no mails, no insecure browser is not risky. A encourage new members to devolute the tab for Mobile Sheet, exclusively.
Very usefull and easy to have one in spare, only Google Drive acount is needed. And stand alone tablets are not intersting to hack. And if hacked, what the problem, a loser lost his time ?
It is not as certain if your tab have Sims card, or if you use it to acces importants acounts...

[FloppyPlops]

Why anyone would put a sheet music display device on the internet escapes me . . .

Perhaps some really outlandishly niche use case, like, say, wanting to be able to play a piece of music that isn't currently in your library?

[FloppyPlops]

(Of course, if anyone running Whinduhs clearly isn't terribly concerned with security in the first place, considering it's abysmal track record . . . )

So you're saying it'd make sense if software was more widely available for more secure operating systems, like e.g... Linux?

[FloppyPlops]

stand alone tablets are not intersting to hack

So hacking in your mind is like in CSI, where some bad actor is really invested in hacking your specific tablet?
It's a numbers game. Once W10 goes out of support, hackers will be massively invested in discovering and exploiting vunerabilities in it, because they know there will be hundreds of thousands of users still using it. They don't target invividual machines, they cast a net and see what it catches. And it might be ransomware, to steal your data, or to spy on you through your webcam, it might be to set up your tablet as part of a botnet - which you never even notice happen, or something else currently unimaginable.

For W10 users, yes, there are technically ways around the issue: Buy new hardware, cut yourself off from the internet, don't use your tablet for anything else. Great (if inconvenient) for those who can afford separate hardware for every activity in their lives.
But it sounds like you're still expecting the developer of MS to keep developing their software for an unsupported operating system. Which might mean no extra overhead to start with, but what happens when the tools and frameworks (created by Microsoft or third parties) that they require to develop MS gradually drop support for W10 too?

[tadawson]

Why anyone would put a sheet music display device on the internet escapes me . . .

Perhaps some really outlandishly niche use case, like, say, wanting to be able to play a piece of music that isn't currently in your library?

Not required! Load it from your computer locally (you know, where your library backup/source shoukd be kept) . . .

[tadawson]

(Of course, if anyone running Whinduhs clearly isn't terribly concerned with security in the first place, considering it's abysmal track record . . . )

So you're saying it'd make sense if software was more widely available for more secure operating systems, like e.g... Linux?

It would certainly be a large movement upward in terms of security and performance, along with a lower cost . . (both in hardware and OS).

[LudwigKarl]

In order to release the full version of MobileSheets on Linux, I'm going to have to first port the entire app over to the Avalonia framework. This is something I want to do, but it's a long term goal and may not happen for at least a year if not more. After that point, I can then decide if it's worth putting in the extra work to test the app on Linux. I would need to see a large amount of interest from users to make this worthwhile though, as the demand for Linux seems very small so far.

Mike

I would definitely use mobilesheets on Linux as well.

[jdeluyck]

As to why you shouldn't connect a device that no longer gets security updates to the Internet: it can act as a gateway for malware to get in the rest of your environment. And it doesn't mean that because it itself is behind a firewall, it cannot get compromised - just having the bad luck of going to an infected website might be sufficient.

For Mobilesheets on linux - while I'd like to see it happen, I think the return on investment would be very low.

[tadawson]

"just having the bad luck of going to an infected website might be sufficient."

*If* you are foolish enough to do day to day activity with a login with elevated rights . . . (and far more common Whinders . . . )

You also somehow presume Linux to be outdated, when it's far easier to keep current (and doesn't have a lot of the platform hardware restrictions of other platforms. For instance, I have a 12+ year old 32bit box running the latest and greatest . . .)

[BluegrassHippie]

In order to release the full version of MobileSheets on Linux, I'm going to have to first port the entire app over to the Avalonia framework. This is something I want to do, but it's a long term goal and may not happen for at least a year if not more. After that point, I can then decide if it's worth putting in the extra work to test the app on Linux. I would need to see a large amount of interest from users to make this worthwhile though, as the demand for Linux seems very small so far.

Mike

I would definitely use mobilesheets on Linux as well.

Me too, the ability to have MS on the desktop would be fabulous.

Cheers
David

[Zubersoft]

I do think a Linux version will be possible when I switch to WinUI (which I'm going to have to use instead of Avalonia as the PDF library I use will only support WinUI 3). I'll be able to provide more information on this next year (hopefully earlier in the year, but it depends on when the PDF company updates their library to use WinUI 3).

Mike

[scubanarc]

Has anyone gotten it to run in wine? I run most things in wine just fine, but Windows store apps don't play nice. I'd like to give it a shot. I've managed to get Ableton Live, some Native Instruments stuff, and all my VSTs to run just fine.

Is there a windows .exe installer that I can use? I bought it so long ago that I can't remember if I used the fastspring site or not. I definitely have it installed through the windows store.

[tadawson]

I gave up on Wine years ago . . . . buggy, finicky, and didn't seem worth the effort. Perhaps it has gotten better, but I possess no desire to retest.

What I use instead for the rare Win* item I need to run is an actual Win* VM running within Linux via QEmu. I've never found anything that won't work, and you can pass physical devices through as well if needed. Pretty sweet to have VM's and Linux apps on screen at the same time, full snapshotting of the VM's available, and the comfort that no matter what happens to the Win* VM, the host Linux system cannot be damaged by it, and that you can rollback to a clean snap if something goes sideways.

[scubanarc]

I gave up on Wine years ago . . . . buggy, finicky, and didn't seem worth the effort. Perhaps it has gotten better, but I possess no desire to retest.

What I use instead for the rare Win* item I need to run is an actual Win* VM running within Linux via QEmu. I've never found anything that won't work, and you can pass physical devices through as well if needed. Pretty sweet to have VM's and Linux apps on screen at the same time, full snapshotting of the VM's available, and the comfort that no matter what happens to the Win* VM, the host Linux system cannot be damaged by it, and that you can rollback to a clean snap if something goes sideways.

It has gotten way better. My primary workstation is Linux Mint, but I still have a ton of legacy stuff I have to run (Ableton Live, Corel Draw, Lightroom, etc.) and I have no problems getting stuff to run under wine.

One trick that I have embraced is to create a unique wine prefix per application. This allows me to keep everything nice and tidy. I keep my wine prefixes in /data/wine, and can snapshot them before testing stuff (zfs or btrfs).

It's at the point where I am more comfortable installing Windows software on Linux than on Windows because I know for a fact that I will not break anything on my main machine.

I do run Windows VM's on occasion, mostly for OS level testing and debugging.

However, running MobileSheets in a VM is not going to work for me. I have a large touchscreen on my piano for SheetMusic, and it just works weird through a VM. I'm really looking forward to a native Linux version of MobileSheets

[ks002]

I just tried out MobileSheets with WinBoat and it kinda works. Winboat is a Windows VM in a docker container working on kvm. Technically it is the same as running WIndows in a kvm/qemu VM, but it features an extra Linux app to manage this and most importantly allows to use the Windows app as a single window on the Linux desktop. Installation is also streamlined and easier than kvm/qemu. The WIndows store can be used to download purchased apps like on a native PC. Traditional Windows applications like MSOffice, Adobe stuff etc run great. MobileSheets being a 'modern' Windows App, has some problems with the graphical output. However, Winboat is in alpha stage so things might improve.  There is the promise of USB pass-trough, which would allow to use usb-bluetooth to connect BT pedals and such with the Windows apps.